Courtney: He thought he was a waste of space. Yes it’s- I told him he had dropped the baby. And I was mean about it. I wasn’t really mean but I wasn’t nice about it. You know we were really polite to each other generally and I told him on the phone. I’m like “You know you dropped the baby right? The other day?” when he was in rehab. “You dropped the baby”. He was like ‘What?”. I’m like ‘You dropped the baby, you dropped Frances on her head”. She was wearing a big hooded coat. And he did not hurt her. And I did not need to tell him that. 

Barbara: And you think that’s why he did it?

Courtney: I think that’s a major reason. I do. I think that’s a major reason, Barbara. And also, he felt like a waste of space and a sellout and he’d made everything too huge and it was his fault that he’d made everything too huge.